Mel Schnapper served as a Peace Corps volunteer in the Nigeria 15 group from 1965 to 1967. His reluctance to follow the rules got him kicked out of the training program for Nigeria 13, but after reapplying he completed the first in-country training program in Nigeria. Schnapper taught English and math at an elite British-type vocational training school in Ilorin, in the northern region. After living on campus, he moved into town and was the only white resident. Schnapper believes that the main impact he had was developing individual relationships, and stresses the importance of nonverbal communication and immersing oneself in the local culture. After his time in Nigeria, he became a Peace Corps trainer in Ethiopia, Swaziland, and Somalia. Although Schnapper later worked extensively as an international development consultant, he is dismissive of USAID and Foreign Service officers who think that they can understand communities without living in them. Interviewed and recorded by Evelyn Ganzglass, October 20, 2016. 2 digital audio files (web streaming files combined into 1 file).